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Re: Flyway Cam NFWR La Crosse
« Reply #645 on: August 27, 2019, 01:08:40 PM »

via Facebook via Sherri Elliott
For those of you that are commenting that this is a tough situation to watch ... we understand, and if it is too upsetting please allow yourself permission to walk away for a bit. RRP is a guest at this refuge with our cameras and we see both the beautiful and sad at times. The National Fish & Wildlife Services is the lead agency in charge and those experts are aware that there are 2 eagles in distress and we trust them to do what they can to formulate whatever plans they can. Meanwhile, we wait and we document, and we thank you for your patience and support.
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Re: Flyway Cam NFWR La Crosse
« Reply #646 on: August 27, 2019, 01:25:54 PM »

photo via explore
Juvie Bald Eagle trying to help injured sibling. Mississippi River Flyway 26 August 2019.
https://youtu.be/Ww-5wQq_bZE via arlene beech

These two juvies could well be siblings but I don't think Arlene knows.  I think she was just interpreting the situation that way and that's why she used "sibling" in her video title.

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Re: Flyway Cam NFWR La Crosse
« Reply #647 on: August 27, 2019, 01:34:58 PM »

via Facebook via Sherri Elliott
For those of you that are commenting that this is a tough situation to watch ... we understand, and if it is too upsetting please allow yourself permission to walk away for a bit. RRP is a guest at this refuge with our cameras and we see both the beautiful and sad at times. The National Fish & Wildlife Services is the lead agency in charge and those experts are aware that there are 2 eagles in distress and we trust them to do what they can to formulate whatever plans they can. Meanwhile, we wait and we document, and we thank you for your patience and support.


Is it not possible for RRP to get permission and go to help this poor injured eagle?  I don't put much faith in U.S. Fish and Wildlife. 

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Re: Flyway Cam NFWR La Crosse
« Reply #648 on: August 27, 2019, 01:51:49 PM »

Juvie Bald Eagle trying to help injured sibling. Mississippi River Flyway 26 August 2019.
https://youtu.be/Ww-5wQq_bZE via arlene beech

Thanks for the link, Lori.  It just breaks your heart seeing the sibling trying to lift his wings so they can continue their awesome adventure together.  I hope the FWS can catch it and determine what is wrong, or at least send it to a place like SOAR if need be.  I would just hate to see them separated though.  You can tell the sibling is sticking close to protect and watch out for the other.  They're never far from each other.  But how great is it that RRP installed these cams so that something like this could be reported?  Without it, injured birds like this one might eventually die from malnutrition or other factors.

Someone posted a comment that an adult eagle attacked the injured one yesterday?  I looked for video of it, but couldn't find anything.

I was watching live when an adult flew in and struck the injured juvie. Not sure if he thought it was dead prey or trying to get it to move? As soon as the adult struck the juvie and it went into defense mode flapping about, the adult landed on the ground to the right of juvie and stayed there awhile with it before flying off. I"m sure if the adult wanted to hurt it, it very well could have. Almost made me think the adult was watching over him as well. Both the adult and the buddy/sibling both sat on the dead tree with the juvie in the water until dark.

This all happened shortly after the juvie was in the water with the other one lifting its feathers and just before the injured one moved over to the dead tree for the evening. I have not seen anyone post a video on it.

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Re: Flyway Cam NFWR La Crosse
« Reply #649 on: August 27, 2019, 02:01:34 PM »

Juvie Bald Eagle trying to help injured sibling. Mississippi River Flyway 26 August 2019.
https://youtu.be/Ww-5wQq_bZE via arlene beech

Thanks for the link, Lori.  It just breaks your heart seeing the sibling trying to lift his wings so they can continue their awesome adventure together.  I hope the FWS can catch it and determine what is wrong, or at least send it to a place like SOAR if need be.  I would just hate to see them separated though.  You can tell the sibling is sticking close to protect and watch out for the other.  They're never far from each other.  But how great is it that RRP installed these cams so that something like this could be reported?  Without it, injured birds like this one might eventually die from malnutrition or other factors.

Someone posted a comment that an adult eagle attacked the injured one yesterday?  I looked for video of it, but couldn't find anything.

I was watching live when an adult flew in and struck the injured juvie. Not sure if he thought it was dead prey or trying to get it to move? As soon as the adult struck the juvie and it went into defense mode flapping about, the adult landed on the ground to the right of juvie and stayed there awhile with it before flying off. I"m sure if the adult wanted to hurt it, it very well could have. Almost made me think the adult was watching over him as well. Both the adult and the buddy/sibling both sat on the dead tree with the juvie in the water until dark.

This all happened shortly after the juvie was in the water with the other one lifting its feathers and just before the injured one moved over to the dead tree for the evening. I have not seen anyone post a video on it.

Thanks monarch.  I had to stop watching so intently because it was starting to get to me.  Not sure if it's going to make it through the day.  The companion looked like it was trying to catch fish, possibly to bring to the other one, but hasn't gone over to it.  It seems like the injured one is lower in the water now.

Watching animal cams is not for the faint of heart that's for sure.  I've been watching Serengeti the last few days and there are times I have to switch over to another station because it's too much.   
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Re: Flyway Cam NFWR La Crosse
« Reply #650 on: August 27, 2019, 02:13:48 PM »

Juvie Bald Eagle trying to help injured sibling. Mississippi River Flyway 26 August 2019.
https://youtu.be/Ww-5wQq_bZE via arlene beech

Thanks for the link, Lori.  It just breaks your heart seeing the sibling trying to lift his wings so they can continue their awesome adventure together.  I hope the FWS can catch it and determine what is wrong, or at least send it to a place like SOAR if need be.  I would just hate to see them separated though.  You can tell the sibling is sticking close to protect and watch out for the other.  They're never far from each other.  But how great is it that RRP installed these cams so that something like this could be reported?  Without it, injured birds like this one might eventually die from malnutrition or other factors.

Someone posted a comment that an adult eagle attacked the injured one yesterday?  I looked for video of it, but couldn't find anything.

I was watching live when an adult flew in and struck the injured juvie. Not sure if he thought it was dead prey or trying to get it to move? As soon as the adult struck the juvie and it went into defense mode flapping about, the adult landed on the ground to the right of juvie and stayed there awhile with it before flying off. I"m sure if the adult wanted to hurt it, it very well could have. Almost made me think the adult was watching over him as well. Both the adult and the buddy/sibling both sat on the dead tree with the juvie in the water until dark.

This all happened shortly after the juvie was in the water with the other one lifting its feathers and just before the injured one moved over to the dead tree for the evening. I have not seen anyone post a video on it.

Thanks monarch.  I had to stop watching so intently because it was starting to get to me.  Not sure if it's going to make it through the day.  The companion looked like it was trying to catch fish, possibly to bring to the other one, but hasn't gone over to it.  It seems like the injured one is lower in the water now.

Watching animal cams is not for the faint of heart that's for sure.  I've been watching Serengeti the last few days and there are times I have to switch over to another station because it's too much.

I know it's hard. I can't even watch Serengeti. I've been working on my puter the past couple days and have had the flyway window up is why I have seen so much live. Just breaks my heart. Poor thing hasn't eaten in at least the couple of days I have been watching him. I sure hope he can be saved.

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Re: Flyway Cam NFWR La Crosse
« Reply #651 on: August 27, 2019, 05:27:06 PM »

The Flyway lil Juvie passed away in the water this afternoon.  Fly high little one!  You were loved!!!  :'(

There are 2 juvies in distress... praying they can reach the other one in time.  No official word from RRP but I got this update from ladyhawk.


Mississippi Fly Away Cam ~ Injured Juvenile Eagle In Water Dies 8.27.19
https://youtu.be/pqqM3pwKPt0 via lady hawk
Yesterday a juvenile eagle was seen injured and standing in the water with missing tail feathers.  Another juvie was seen- perhaps a sibling and remained close to him. Today he was still in the water as the other juvie continued to stay close to him all day. Sadly, this afternoon, he passed away. Earlier RRP put out this statement before the young eagle died.

"A number of you contacted us about an injured eagle seen on the Flyway cam yesterday. John spoke with the district NWFS manager at Brice Prairie last night and they have been watching and trying to capture an injured eagle in the same area. However, the eagle can still fly well enough to evade capture. We'll post more if and when we get it."
"The National Fish and Wildlife Services that are in charge of this refuge are aware of the distressed eagles (they have confirmed that there are two of them). We know that the views may be distressing, but we have to allow them to handle the situation according to best practices and make plans accordingly. If it is hard for you to view, please take a break for a while, walk away and check in later."
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Re: Flyway Cam NFWR La Crosse
« Reply #652 on: August 27, 2019, 06:15:28 PM »

The Flyway lil Juvie passed away in the water this afternoon.  Fly high little one!  You were loved!!!  :'(

There are 2 juvies in distress... praying they can reach the other one in time.  No official word from RRP but I got this update from ladyhawk.


Mississippi Fly Away Cam ~ Injured Juvenile Eagle In Water Dies 8.27.19
https://youtu.be/pqqM3pwKPt0 via lady hawk
Yesterday a juvenile eagle was seen injured and standing in the water with missing tail feathers.  Another juvie was seen- perhaps a sibling and remained close to him. Today he was still in the water as the other juvie continued to stay close to him all day. Sadly, this afternoon, he passed away. Earlier RRP put out this statement before the young eagle died.

"A number of you contacted us about an injured eagle seen on the Flyway cam yesterday. John spoke with the district NWFS manager at Brice Prairie last night and they have been watching and trying to capture an injured eagle in the same area. However, the eagle can still fly well enough to evade capture. We'll post more if and when we get it."
"The National Fish and Wildlife Services that are in charge of this refuge are aware of the distressed eagles (they have confirmed that there are two of them). We know that the views may be distressing, but we have to allow them to handle the situation according to best practices and make plans accordingly. If it is hard for you to view, please take a break for a while, walk away and check in later."

I am very upset. These are the experts? That little baby didn't move all day, there was no way you can convince me FWS couldn't rescue and save it. Poor baby, didn't even get a chance for help.

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Re: Flyway Cam NFWR La Crosse
« Reply #653 on: August 27, 2019, 06:25:19 PM »

Our U.S. Fish and Wildlife Services is useless.  They don't give a damn about saving wildlife.  All they care about is killing predators at the behest of the ranchers, farmers and mining companies.  And they have become even worse under the Trump admin.

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Re: Flyway Cam NFWR La Crosse
« Reply #654 on: August 27, 2019, 06:26:40 PM »

Today I saw what may have been two rescue attem uppts.  The first one caused the juvie to fly very quickly to the right.  The second time was later when the juvie was more running and trying to fly to the right.  During the second time the juvie was extremely upset.  I couldn't think what else could have caused such fright unless it was a rescue attempt.  It was clearly trying to escape something.  Both times the cam did not show what was occurring to the left of the view.  Did anyone else see these two events?

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Re: Flyway Cam NFWR La Crosse
« Reply #655 on: August 27, 2019, 06:42:44 PM »

Today I saw what may have been two rescue attem uppts.  The first one caused the juvie to fly very quickly to the right.  The second time was later when the juvie was more running and trying to fly to the right.  During the second time the juvie was extremely upset.  I couldn't think what else could have caused such fright unless it was a rescue attempt.  It was clearly trying to escape something.  Both times the cam did not show what was occurring to the left of the view.  Did anyone else see these two events?

Ginger, I did, but I thought that running and flying to the right might have been caused by the wind that had kind of picked up a lil speed at that moment. 

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Re: Flyway Cam NFWR La Crosse
« Reply #656 on: August 27, 2019, 06:46:09 PM »

Today I saw what may have been two rescue attem uppts.  The first one caused the juvie to fly very quickly to the right.  The second time was later when the juvie was more running and trying to fly to the right.  During the second time the juvie was extremely upset.  I couldn't think what else could have caused such fright unless it was a rescue attempt.  It was clearly trying to escape something.  Both times the cam did not show what was occurring to the left of the view.  Did anyone else see these two events?

Ginger, I did, but I thought that running and flying to the right might have been caused by the wind that had kind of picked up a lil speed at that moment.

I saw it as well. If that was FWS attempt at a rescue, our wildlife is in trouble  :'(

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Re: Flyway Cam NFWR La Crosse
« Reply #657 on: August 27, 2019, 07:02:02 PM »

Ok, thanks.  Probably just wishful thinking on my part. 

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Re: Flyway Cam NFWR La Crosse
« Reply #658 on: August 27, 2019, 08:06:32 PM »

I just saw a comment on RRP Facebook page where the commenter quoted an email he received earlier from the Deputy Refuge Manager:

"Sorry for the delay in responding.  I needed to gather a little more information about the eagle you observed.  It appears the eagle is molting and thus flightless at this time.  Eagles and many other birds go through a period each year where they shed their feathers (called molting) and cannot fly.  The feathers do grow back (like clipping a finger nail or a dog shedding its fur).  As soon as its primary flight feathers come in, it should be able to fly again.  It is also a juvenile bird and likely a little disoriented.  We'll keep an eye on it.  Thanks for contacting me and for your interest in eagles and the Upper Mississippi River."

Just appalling.   >:(    No wonder there was no rescue!
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Re: Flyway Cam NFWR La Crosse
« Reply #659 on: August 27, 2019, 08:17:50 PM »

From RRP's FB page:

UPDATE (August 27, 2019 @ 7:50 PM CDT): It appears that a juvie we were watching on the Flyway Cam perished at about 4pm CT this afternoon. We are still not sure if there was only one eagle in distress or a second eagle that NWS was looking for. We are hoping to clarify the situation soon, but have no way of answering your questions until then.
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