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Re: Beak Room 2025
« Reply #2670 on: April 13, 2025, 01:34:57 PM »

Puff, and others...

RRP posted today - a little over an hour ago - in the chat box at the RRP Goose Cam at:
https://www.raptorresource.org/birdcams/decorah-goose-cam/

It says there, in the chat, from glogdog:
Apr 13, 1:08 PM
glogdog (Admin): All 6 Goose eggs have hatched now at N1! Here's RRP's FB post about that: "Make way for Goslings!"

 https://www.facebook.com/RaptorResourceProject/videos/1906479443514349


More about that from RRP, related to expected "JUMP!" in 24-48 hours, is posted on the RRP FB at:
https://www.facebook.com/RaptorResourceProject/videos/1906479443514349

which says:
The goslings in N1 are hatching and we’re getting a lot of questions about the gosling Leap of Faith, which will probably happen tomorrow or Tuesday. Will the goslings jump? How will they survive? Are they really ready to leave the nest? Read on for the answers to your questions and watch live here: https://www.raptorresource.org/birdcams/decorah-goose-cam/.
Will the goslings really jump?
They will! Watch for The Leap of Faith to happen roughly 24 to 48 hours after hatch. Mother Goose will leave the nest and both parents will start vocalizing. The already-busy goslings will become even more excited and eventually leap or tumble towards the sound of their parents’ voices. If you watched last year, you’ll remember how rambunctious they got before leaping!
How will they survive?
When things fall, the momentum they gain falling has to go somewhere when the fall stops. As climbers say: “It isn’t the fall that kills you, it’s the stop.” Whether or not the object breaks depends on the physical characteristics of the object (mass, brittleness, springiness) and the ability of the struck surface to absorb energy. If I drop a plate on a trampoline, the plate bounces. If my cat knocks the same plate on to a tile floor, the plate shatters. And if I drop a ball on either one, the ball bounces!
How about the goslings? Momentum = mass x velocity. Goslings weigh just three ounces at hatch: about as much as two dental floss picks, three pieces of sliced bread, three AA batteries, or anything else listed here. Mass and weight aren’t really the same, but the goslings don’t have much of either one. And they flap their tiny little wings as they fall, which reduces their velocity. They don’t have nearly as much momentum to dissipate as, say, a 160-pound human falling out of the same tree.
Are the goslings likely to shatter on impact?
Adult birds, like adult humans, have rigid bones that shatter and break when their force threshold is exceeded. But young waterfowl have a high percentage of chondroid bone, a springy skeletal tissue intermediate between cartilage and bone. Sadly, our 160-pound human is lying at the bottom of the tree with a lot of broken bones and probably some punctured internal organs. But the gosling’s light weight and springy skeleton let it bounce, which dissipates the energy of the landing without breaking the gosling’s bones. Human zero, gosling one!
Let’s talk about the landing surface!
If a gosling, a 160-pound human, or my plate falls 70 feet and hits a hard surface that can’t absorb energy, the force of the fall – its momentum – will be dissipated through their bodies. The plate will shatter, the human’s rigid bones will break, and the gosling’s low momentum and springy bones might not be enough to save it. But if any of them hit a surface that can absorb energy, at least some of their momentum will be dissipated elsewhere: think of muddy river banks, soft grass, brush, and so on. Those things aren’t going to be enough to save our 160-pound human, who has rigid bones and a lot of momentum. But the light, springy gosling will be fine.
Why are the parents nesting in a tree? Are they stupid?
Some of you are questioning the intellectual capacity of Mother and Father Goose. Don’t they know that geese nest on the ground? This question gets right to the heart of watching a wild nest. It can be incredibly stressful to watch birds do things that seem bad for them, but they understand their lives better than we do.
It’s important to remember that we haven’t seen geese nesting in abandoned eagle nests because bald eagles were largely gone. The Bald Eagle disappeared from Iowa in 1905 and didn’t return to nest until 1977. For 62 years – I’m giving the last nests ten years to dwindle – Canada geese in Iowa didn’t have the choice to nest on high. I think, based on documentation from the early to mid-1900’s, that we are seeing the resumption of an old, instinctual behavior. While the leap isn’t without risks, adults, eggs, and goslings are free from ground-based predators like dogs, cats, skunks, coyotes, foxes, humans, and some species of snakes. Tree nests might also be easier to protect from geese who want to dump their eggs in someone else’s nest. More on that here: https://www.raptorresource.org/.../what-are-canada-geese.../.
Are the goslings really ready to leave the nest? It takes eagles a long time to fledge!
There are a lot of ways to group birds. Depending on what we want to do, we can apply traditional taxonomy (class, order, family, species), habitat (waterfowl, shorebirds, upland birds, marine birds, and so on), status (critically endangered, endangered, vulnerable, near threatened, species of least concern), or self-sufficiency following hatch. Precocial birds like Canada Geese can care for themselves shortly after hatch. They can thermoregulate, run, swim, and find their own food, although their parents protect them and lead them to feeding spots. But altricial birds like Bald Eagles are relatively immobile, can’t thermoregulate, and need to be fed. Nestling eaglets and peregrines don’t leave the nest or procure their own food until they fledge. Goslings leave the nest within 24-48 hours of hatching and do not return to it. To learn more about precocial versus altricial, follow this link! https://www.raptorresource.org/2025/04/08/canada-geese-precocial-versus-altricial-2/
« Last Edit: April 13, 2025, 01:39:13 PM by baziunc »
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Re: Beak Room 2025
« Reply #2671 on: April 13, 2025, 01:57:06 PM »

(((TSK))), prayers and best wishes for (((Tim))) for a successful treatment, and hope he's feeling better and home again soon!


« Last Edit: April 13, 2025, 02:01:50 PM by baziunc »
"Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, but today is a gift, that is why it is called the present."   ― A.A. Milne

"Hope for the best and accept what comes." ― President Jimmy Carter, on Aug. 20, 2015, during press conference at The Carter Center

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Re: Beak Room 2025
« Reply #2672 on: April 13, 2025, 02:02:09 PM »

I've been thinking of past years all day today baz and in the onset of the little ones leaving so soon, and remembering the males, even pre hatch, starting to make a landing pad and softening it for the kids; neither mom or dad have done any advance preparations.  Routine a bit different this year.  Dad staying on the hatch scene just because.  Maybe they have been lucky and found a doable fletch setting.

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Re: Beak Room 2025
« Reply #2673 on: April 13, 2025, 02:06:37 PM »

Puff, as always, it's nature, and we are lucky to be able to follow along with their journey, with hope for the best for this goose pair and their new goslings. :-*
"Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, but today is a gift, that is why it is called the present."   ― A.A. Milne

"Hope for the best and accept what comes." ― President Jimmy Carter, on Aug. 20, 2015, during press conference at The Carter Center

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Re: Beak Room 2025
« Reply #2674 on: April 13, 2025, 02:50:59 PM »

Howdy Beakers!  :)

I'm catching up on a couple of days posts...

So sorry to hear of the passing of 2 of the 4 FSV eaglets. Such sadness. I never had heard that the 4th had hatched there till now! Talons crossed that the remaining 2 eaglets and this Eagle Family have better days and a happier progression through their nesting season this year. Rest in peace, little ones, and fly high like the Eagles you are.  :-* :-*

I missed Caturday, so, belatedly...  ;)




(((Phyl))), oh no! Another tumble!! I'm so sorry, and hope you're feeling better.  :-* I hope BL's Bubble Suit is the right size - I know you will wear it well!  ;) :D  You and Jim rest up and keep getting better and better. Hugs.

Lani, FYI, LOL... unlike in some other places in the U.S., such as Texas, etc., in the Southern Atlantic states, if you order BBQ, you will get pork, not beef.  ;) :D That BBQ sandwich at The Masters is pork, all day long.  ;) Your deviled eggs sound yummy! I love them! No fair you didn't get one! Pimento cheese was a staple in my house when I was growing up. But every brand seems totally different. You might like some different from the one you tried before. My LilSis makes a mean homemade pimento cheese! Or 'minter cheese, as we often say.  ;) It's so good as a grilled pimento cheese sandwich, too, or to make stuffed celery... yum.

Clynn, I hope you're safely at your destination. Such a long drive for you, so I hope the books on tape had someone better than Karen's Typing Lady doing the talking!  ;) ;) ;D  And I hope the Weather Gods were with you! :) :-*

BL, glad you had a wonderful day at Augusta National yesterday, and safe travels back home again. Hope Pip didn't get too much snow accum in your absence, and all can rendezvous in your cozy, friendly barn upon your return.

Karen, have you noticed if the House Finches, or other little chirpers, have an active nest yet on your front porch roof again yet?

Lisa, bagel, bagel, bagel! Oh yum, your post made me hungry! I love egg salad, and yours sounds yum!

Lori, yum on that coconut cake you made for Paulie's b'day! She better hurry to it, before I get it!  :D

Waving to KB, Tig, and All!  :D


« Last Edit: April 16, 2025, 04:47:00 PM by baziunc »
"Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, but today is a gift, that is why it is called the present."   ― A.A. Milne

"Hope for the best and accept what comes." ― President Jimmy Carter, on Aug. 20, 2015, during press conference at The Carter Center

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Re: Beak Room 2025
« Reply #2675 on: April 13, 2025, 03:10:58 PM »

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, PAULIE!  :)  I hope you were kicking back with some fun surprises and yummy treats for your birthday... and no snow shoveling!  :D



"Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, but today is a gift, that is why it is called the present."   ― A.A. Milne

"Hope for the best and accept what comes." ― President Jimmy Carter, on Aug. 20, 2015, during press conference at The Carter Center

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Re: Beak Room 2025
« Reply #2676 on: April 13, 2025, 03:20:46 PM »

Oops, I almost completely forgot! Beakers, I don't know if this was posted before, but it's lots of fun to watch... to the very end! LOL! Fun, special feeding behavior! Smart smart bird!!  :D  For bird lovers, like we are... a Striated Heron (I think, not certain!), fishing with bait!! Really good, and fun, short video!!  :D

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DIPhqnDp0Wa/?igsh=MXBhbzJkdG53MjAwdg%3D%3D - Watch for the fun ending! LOL!  :D P. S. You don't need an instagram account to view this - just click on the "X" to close out the pop-up sign-in page to view the video.  There's cute music with it, if you un-mute the sound with it.

 ;) Extra credit info:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Striated_heron - Scroll to the paragraph, "Food and feeding" - special behaviors!  :)


Some pictures you can scroll through here - they look a tad different in different countries:
https://ebird.org/species/strher

Great pics here!
https://media.ebird.org/catalog?birdOnly=true&taxonCode=strher&mediaType=photo&sort=rating_rank_desc
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"Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, but today is a gift, that is why it is called the present."   ― A.A. Milne

"Hope for the best and accept what comes." ― President Jimmy Carter, on Aug. 20, 2015, during press conference at The Carter Center

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Re: Beak Room 2025
« Reply #2677 on: April 13, 2025, 03:54:34 PM »

I'm heading to watch the rest of The Masters. Sounds great on the TV from behind me, LOL. I want Rory to win! If he does (looking that way so far, after 9 holes this final round), it will make for the completion of his career Grand Slam - and he would be joining a very short select list of others who have accomplished that feat so far! Go Rory McIlroy!!  :D

So have a good evening, All! Meanwhile...  ;D


"Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, but today is a gift, that is why it is called the present."   ― A.A. Milne

"Hope for the best and accept what comes." ― President Jimmy Carter, on Aug. 20, 2015, during press conference at The Carter Center

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Re: Beak Room 2025
« Reply #2678 on: April 13, 2025, 04:40:29 PM »

Baz and Tig and Lani - Rory is going to give me a heart attack ...
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Re: Beak Room 2025
« Reply #2679 on: April 13, 2025, 05:36:00 PM »

HOPE I'M NOT TOO LATE TO WISH YOU A HAPPY BIRTHDAY, PAULIE  Hope it was a good one.

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« Reply #2680 on: April 13, 2025, 05:37:00 PM »

Will catch up with everyone later tomorrow.  Home from hospital and showered and now off to church  Pant Pant
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Re: Beak Room 2025
« Reply #2681 on: April 13, 2025, 05:41:10 PM »

((( TSK )))
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« Reply #2682 on: April 13, 2025, 05:42:57 PM »

I crying already. ((( Rory !!! )))  8) 🤞
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Re: Beak Room 2025
« Reply #2683 on: April 13, 2025, 05:45:35 PM »

Tsk, how is Tim doing? 
Bl, you r right!
Baz, tge ikdest twin girl has beautiful eyes!  All cute kids

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« Reply #2684 on: April 13, 2025, 06:18:26 PM »

YES !!!
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