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Author Topic: Songbirds still in peril: Stop the Tar Sands Pipeline  (Read 2204 times)
Caerann
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« on: August 29, 2011, 02:43:36 PM »

Hi All:

The NRDC (Natural Resources Defense Council) is calling again on all of us bird fans to contact the president as a last-ditch effort to stop the Keystone XL pipeline which is nearing approval by the State Department.

Please let your voice be heard by following this link to a pre-typed letter to the president:

https://secure.nrdconline.org/site/Advocacy?cmd=display&page=UserAction&id=2377

Peace, love & birds,
Caerann
 
 
 
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Caerann
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Keystone
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« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2011, 08:25:13 AM »

Caerann, thank you for bringing this to the board and starting the thread. 

These "not in my backyard" issues are not fun issues but are very necessary to insure our wildlife and wildlands endure.  The thing is once they finish in "my backyard" they will come for "your backyard".  I understand that regular posters tire of the endless vote, vote, vote postings but we need to be mindful of the new people and people who come in to just read so they can also be privy to the important issues that affect us all.  Thats the reason for multiple posts.  I vote and then pass over it the next time it appears. 

I will be consolidating the information I have posted to this post only for future reference.  It is in the Off Topic section but maybe, for the time being, it can be moved to the forefront somewhere until this issue is resolved.  Its really not Off Topic because it could affect "Our" Eagles.  So please read and help protect the wildlife.

http://www.credoaction.com/campaign/keystone_comments/?rc=homepage


 

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Keystone
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« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2011, 08:34:43 AM »

UPDATE:

These comments are especially important right now, because of numerous recent developments indicating that the State Department is not conducting a good-faith review of the Keystone XL Pipeline.

In a stunning conflict of interest, the State Department hearings this week have been run by a company called Cardno ENTRIX, a contractor working for the Keystone XL pipeline developer TransCanada!1

For further details here is the update:

http://www.credoaction.com/campaign/keystone_comments/?rc=homepage

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Keystone
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« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2011, 08:41:58 AM »

Caerann, I have copied your video so it can be seen here.  Hope that is okay.

Sorry, forgot the link to the video:

https://secure.nrdconline.org/site/SPageNavigator/Video_Tar_Sands_Birds.html 
 
 
 
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Keystone
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« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2011, 09:23:58 PM »

I have a couple of current articles about the Keystone Pipeline that I will post tomorrow but recently I read an article that mentioned the Keystone pipeline and Bechtel Corporation.  Red flags went up everywhere, all around me.

I got nothing, just this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sVUvpdT-NY



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Keystone
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« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2011, 06:58:12 PM »

The Keystone XL is an extension of the Keystone pipeline.  This is from Wikipedia.

The Keystone Pipeline System is a pipeline system to transport synthetic crude oil from the Athabasca Oil Sands in northeastern Alberta, Canada to refineries in Illinois and Oklahoma, and further to the U.S. Gulf Coast. It consists of the operational "Keystone Pipeline" and proposed Keystone XL (Keystone Expansion) pipeline. Keystone XL has faced lawsuits from oil refineries, criticism from environmentalists and some members of the United States Congress. The U.S. Department of State in 2010 extended the deadline for federal agencies to decide if the pipeline is in the national interest.

Here is the latest from Nebraska.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/30/keystone-pipeline-meetings-nebraska_n_988203.html

And the latest from the Hill.

http://thehill.com/blogs/e2-wire/677-e2-wire/185585-green-groups-sue-to-block-keystone-xl-pipeline

And the latest request to Hillary Clinton who will make a decision later on this year.

http://thehill.com/blogs/e2-wire/677-e2-wire/185709-house-dems-press-clinton-to-reject-keystone-xl-pipeline

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« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2011, 07:03:38 PM »

The State Department is accepting final public comments on the Keystone XL pipeline until Friday.  After Friday it will up to the powers that be. 
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Keystone
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« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2011, 04:31:23 AM »

A better map of the current Keystone pipeline and extended Keystone XL pipeline.  Shows the magnitude of the Ogallala Aquifer.

Click the thumbnail to see the map.
http://www.nrdc.org/energy/dirtyfuels_tar.asp?gclid=CLK21tbo06sCFRBT7Aod8gmUQw

The Platt River in Central Nebraska
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3C77NLSiU-o&feature=player_embedded
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« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2011, 07:27:02 PM »

Now comes the wait.  Whats it gonna be?

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/nationnow/2011/10/keystone-xl-pipeline-public-hearings-end-now-comes-the-wait.html


Just a whole lot of people-doing the best they could. This song was recorded in 1974.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oF0XBlW_L6s&feature=related


I think someone needs to listen to "Eagle Woman".
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« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2011, 07:09:55 AM »

An article from DodgeGlobe.com.  Why Every Kansan Should Oppose Keystone XL

"Resources at risk include nesting habitat for the only wild self-sustaining population of whooping cranes, birds passing through Quivira National Wildlife Refuge and Cheyenne Bottoms twice annually."


http://www.dodgeglobe.com/opinions/x1968431891/Why-every-Kansan-should-oppose-Keystone-XL

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« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2011, 07:13:58 AM »

Mixed reviews from South Dakota on the Keystone XL pipeline.

http://www.yankton.net/articles/2011/10/12/community/doc4e9507202bf04905857731.txt
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« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2011, 07:25:01 AM »

This article speaks to the Keystone XL Pipeline Not worth the Risk. 

There have been conflicting numbers of the new jobs that will be created.  I read where 20,000-250,000 could be created.  It was also stated that 14,000 of those jobs would be Canadian jobs.  No matter the number of jobs to create this pipeline but it certainly would be a job creator if/when it leaks somewhere down the road.  Here is an excerpt from the article.

"The promise of 20,000 new jobs is questionable. Most would be temporary and probably in other countries. The State Department puts the number of created U.S. jobs closer to 6,000. But no matter. The Ogallala aquifer nourishing the people and economy of this irreplaceable ecosystem isn't worth 200,000 jobs."

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2011/10/04/keystone_xl_pipeline_not_worth_the_risks_111554.html

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« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2011, 01:41:30 PM »

Here is an interesting comment at the end of this update by Igor.

1 - Igor
Oct 07, 2011 at 11:51 pm
I´m against the XL pipeline on National Security and financial grounds (I also believe that the jobs projections are grossly exaggerated, and are characterized by double-counting, but I´ll leave that for another day).

XL is bad for national security because it does little to alleviate our energy problems. We must look elsewhere for energy sources that will layoff against oil requirements.

All oil is fungible. Every American should have that written across the inside of his windshield so he can read it everyday driving into work. All oil extracted from the earth is interchangeable once it is extracted. It does not bear a brand, as a cow might. All oil goes into a common virtual pool. There is no way, for example, to sequester oil for domestic use, and even if a nation were to attempt to do so by military means the attempt would be subverted by shifts in the international oil market, which are basically a (close to ) ideal free market. Thus, Ghaddafi of Libya, whose country has prodigious reserves of oil, could NOT subsidize cheap petrol for Libyans by sequestration, but only by granting huge subsidies to drivers to counteract high pump prices (as determined by free international markets). Of course, the money to do that derived from relatively high crude prices to the fungible international market.

Every barrel of oil (from whatever source, since oil is fungible) from Canadian tar sands will go 80% to foreigners! Only 20% will benefit US consumers! That´s because the US only uses 20% of all oil drilled anywhere. China uses about 30%, and I can´t recall what India uses (it´s easily available on the EIA website). But both of those countries are using a higher percentage every year, while our percentage decreases. Therefore, the future benefits of more oil will fall more and more to foreigners.

Oil companies are 60% owned by foreigners. The stocks are publicly traded on international markets. Therefore, when we subsidize an oil company by $50billion it represents a $30billion savings to foreign investors. That´s $30billion less capital they need to put in.

The oil companies, Chevron, Exxon, Valero, pay zero corporate taxes while getting high profits. That´s another subsidy that goes 60% to foreign investors.

The USA will certainly be required to provide direct and indirect subsidies for the construction of XL, whether for direct costs like construction, or indirect costs such as lost property value (opportunity cost) for land seized by imminent domain.

There will be other subsidies such as lost value for fresh water usage (about 4 to 8 gallons of fresh water are required for every gallon of tar sands oil). USA Citizens will pay for this one way or the other.

The Ogallala Aquifer will be de-valued by contamination to a large extent (we already know that other such pipelines leak freely and depreciate the waters they run thru). This will cause great financial damage to the Nebraske agri-business which is a mainstay of USA food production, so food costs to US consumers will rise drastically.

The paltry results simply do not justify the costs to American citizens. It´s a very poor ROI.


Here is the Update.

http://blogcritics.org/politics/article/keystone-xl-pipeline-update/




Read more: http://blogcritics.org/politics/article/keystone-xl-pipeline-update/#ixzz1bjJeoDPw
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Keystone
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« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2011, 01:48:02 PM »

At a heated hearing in the heart of Cornhusker country, one cowboy poet gives local outrage an eloquent voice.

http://www.onearth.org/article/keystone-xl-tar-sands-hearing-nebraska

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« Reply #14 on: October 24, 2011, 01:51:48 PM »

November 6: Stand Up to Keystone XL Pipeline and Unite for Clean Energy .  There is a petition to sign at the end of this article if you want to send the President a message.


http://switchboard.nrdc.org/blogs/fbeinecke/november_6_stand_up_to_keyston.html
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